Jump to content

Ask Your VA Claims Questions | Read Current Posts 
Read VA Disability Claims Articles
Search | View All Forums | Donate | Blogs | New Users | Rules 

  • tbirds-va-claims-struggle (1).png

  • 01-2024-stay-online-donate-banner.png

     

  • 0

Tdiu And Voc Rehab

Rate this question


willie 74

Question

I am currrently a voc rehab student. ( Online) I got SSD about 5 months ago so I applied for TDIU. Could I get TDIU based off of SSD? And could I still do the online schooling? And if not why not, just becuase I may not be able to physically work, my mind works, well somewhat anyway....:blink:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Answers 8
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters For This Question

Recommended Posts

  • HadIt.com Elder

SSD can help but it has to be for the same thing to really be a big help

Veterans deserve real choice for their health care.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Vocational Rehabilitation is supposed to prepare you for re-entering the workforce. Once you finish your training, you can work under Social Security's Ticket to Work program for a little while with no danger of losing your SSDI during the Trial Work Period. If you continue to work and lose your SSDI, and then can't work anymore for some reason, you can re-file under an expedited process to regain your SSDI benefits.

I'm not sure if there is an equivalent program for Total Disability Based On Individual Unemployability (TDIU), as by nature, TDIU is awarded to people who cannot work due to their Service-Connected disabilities. I think that TDIU P&T would be incompatible with someone attending Voc Rehab, as it denotes their condition is not expected to improve; whereas TDIU can be temporary, and taken away once a veteran returns to the workforce. JMHO

"It is a terrible thing, when you lose your train of thought and you only have a one track mind"... Me

96C2P/96F2P (old MOS designations)

97E2P/37F2P (new MOS designations)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the replys. Yes the ssd was all service connected. I talked to them and they said based off of all my service records is how they made the determination.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks willie. I am in the same scenario and had the exact same question. Maybe we could get approved for some school under ILP, go to school part time even if its not for working but to keep our mids sharp, to be social, help with the depression/alone time and be a positive thing in our life.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • HadIt.com Elder

If you are a young guy or gal I would try and get schooling and collect TDIU if possible with hopes that I may be able to return to work one day. It may not be possible. If I were 23 years old I sure would not be looking forward to being on TDIU for the next 50 years. If I was 50 years old on TDIU I would be trying to get P&T since there is probably nothing out there for you unless you can be self-employed. Age discrimination is real. I got TDIU when I was 51 years old. There was no work out there for me in any sense of the world.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would rather still be serving, but my injurys really are the truth which prevent me from doing so. I am 36 and if I can rehab to working shape I want the education to be employable. As of now and the past two years I have actually got worse so we will see. Either way we need to work our minds and do something to help with the depression which is a day to day battle for most. Do you think I should let the chap 35 guy know I applied for TDIU or have been approved for SSD? I dont want to find myself in trouble for not doing something I should of. Thanks all

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Tell a friend

    Love HadIt.com’s VA Disability Community Vets helping Vets since 1997? Tell a friend!
  • Recent Achievements

    • Lebro earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • spazbototto earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Paul Gretza earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Troy Spurlock went up a rank
      Community Regular
    • KMac1181 earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Our picks

    • These decisions have made a big impact on how VA disability claims are handled, giving veterans more chances to get benefits and clearing up important issues.

      Service Connection

      Frost v. Shulkin (2017)
      This case established that for secondary service connection claims, the primary service-connected disability does not need to be service-connected or diagnosed at the time the secondary condition is incurred 1. This allows veterans to potentially receive secondary service connection for conditions that developed before their primary condition was officially service-connected. 

      Saunders v. Wilkie (2018)
      The Federal Circuit ruled that pain alone, without an accompanying diagnosed condition, can constitute a disability for VA compensation purposes if it results in functional impairment 1. This overturned previous precedent that required an underlying pathology for pain to be considered a disability.

      Effective Dates

      Martinez v. McDonough (2023)
      This case dealt with the denial of an earlier effective date for a total disability rating based on individual unemployability (TDIU) 2. It addressed issues around the validity of appeal withdrawals and the consideration of cognitive impairment in such decisions.

      Rating Issues

      Continue Reading on HadIt.com
      • 0 replies
    • I met with a VSO today at my VA Hospital who was very knowledgeable and very helpful.  We decided I should submit a few new claims which we did.  He told me that he didn't need copies of my military records that showed my sick call notations related to any of the claims.  He said that the VA now has entire military medical record on file and would find the record(s) in their own file.  It seemed odd to me as my service dates back to  1981 and spans 34 years through my retirement in 2015.  It sure seemed to make more sense for me to give him copies of my military medical record pages that document the injuries as I'd already had them with me.  He didn't want my copies.  Anyone have any information on this.  Much thanks in advance.  
      • 4 replies
    • Caluza Triangle defines what is necessary for service connection
      Caluza Triangle – Caluza vs Brown defined what is necessary for service connection. See COVA– CALUZA V. BROWN–TOTAL RECALL

      This has to be MEDICALLY Documented in your records:

      Current Diagnosis.   (No diagnosis, no Service Connection.)

      In-Service Event or Aggravation.
      Nexus (link- cause and effect- connection) or Doctor’s Statement close to: “The Veteran’s (current diagnosis) is at least as likely due to x Event in military service”
      • 0 replies
    • Do the sct codes help or hurt my disability rating 
    • VA has gotten away with (mis) interpreting their  ambigious, , vague regulations, then enforcing them willy nilly never in Veterans favor.  

      They justify all this to congress by calling themselves a "pro claimant Veteran friendly organization" who grants the benefit of the doubt to Veterans.  

      This is not true, 

      Proof:  

          About 80-90 percent of Veterans are initially denied by VA, pushing us into a massive backlog of appeals, or worse, sending impoverished Veterans "to the homeless streets" because  when they cant work, they can not keep their home.  I was one of those Veterans who they denied for a bogus reason:  "Its been too long since military service".  This is bogus because its not one of the criteria for service connection, but simply made up by VA.  And, I was a homeless Vet, albeit a short time,  mostly due to the kindness of strangers and friends. 

          Hadit would not be necessary if, indeed, VA gave Veterans the benefit of the doubt, and processed our claims efficiently and paid us promptly.  The VA is broken. 

          A huge percentage (nearly 100 percent) of Veterans who do get 100 percent, do so only after lengthy appeals.  I have answered questions for thousands of Veterans, and can only name ONE person who got their benefits correct on the first Regional Office decision.  All of the rest of us pretty much had lengthy frustrating appeals, mostly having to appeal multiple multiple times like I did. 

          I wish I know how VA gets away with lying to congress about how "VA is a claimant friendly system, where the Veteran is given the benefit of the doubt".   Then how come so many Veterans are homeless, and how come 22 Veterans take their life each day?  Va likes to blame the Veterans, not their system.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Guidelines and Terms of Use