tdiu Which One Should I Be Applying For

[navydoc2]

I have questions about social security but I want to use the right terminology before I ask. Should I be applying for both SSI or SSD I am recieving VA benefits at 100% TDIU does this disqualify me for either or both? Also I have the paperwork for the determination division what should I say and how do I word it from my friends part. thanks

[allan]

navydoc,

you must have earned 20 credits out of the 40 qtrs worked prior to becoming totally disabled.

In some cases "extra earnings" during military service may be applied to help qualify.

Military Service And Social Security

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10017.html

Edited September 28, 2009 by allan

[navydoc2]

navydoc,

you must have earned 20 credits out of the 40 qtrs worked prior to becoming totally disabled.

In some cases "extra earnings" during military service may be applied to help qualify.

Military Service And Social Security

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10017.html

I stopped working June 08 but prior to that I worked the same job for four years and two of those years worked a second job, will SS go back to the date I last worked or start claim date from date of filing? My military service ended in 99.thanks allan.

[Missouri_Vet]

In Missouri when you file for one your filing for both, because i didn't work for quite some time they owed me not only for SSI (one lump sum payment) but, also for SSD back pay. So I had 2 lump sums and then started getting the SSD which was pretty nice. Since its goobermint it should be the same in your state. Most have it also that when you file for SSD or SSI now that you also file for medicaid as one big process. I have a friend that didnt have enough credits to get the SSD and gets SSI but, its offset by his VA 100 percent because they call SSI earned income and SSD is not earned income. hope you get the SSD!!

[darkhorse]

That's correct...when anyone applies for SSD Social Security automatically checks to see if you qualify for SSI first. Here in CA a disabled person has to use up their state disability insurance before receiving SSD.

dh

In Missouri when you file for one your filing for both, because i didn't work for quite some time they owed me not only for SSI (one lump sum payment) but, also for SSD back pay. So I had 2 lump sums and then started getting the SSD which was pretty nice. Since its goobermint it should be the same in your state. Most have it also that when you file for SSD or SSI now that you also file for medicaid as one big process. I have a friend that didnt have enough credits to get the SSD and gets SSI but, its offset by his VA 100 percent because they call SSI earned income and SSD is not earned income. hope you get the SSD!!

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[navydoc2]

That's correct...when anyone applies for SSD Social Security automatically checks to see if you qualify for SSI first. Here in CA a disabled person has to use up their state disability insurance before receiving SSD.

dh

In Missouri when you file for one your filing for both, because i didn't work for quite some time they owed me not only for SSI (one lump sum payment) but, also for SSD back pay. So I had 2 lump sums and then started getting the SSD which was pretty nice. Since its goobermint it should be the same in your state. Most have it also that when you file for SSD or SSI now that you also file for medicaid as one big process. I have a friend that didnt have enough credits to get the SSD and gets SSI but, its offset by his VA 100 percent because they call SSI earned income and SSD is not earned income. hope you get the SSD!!

I think I'll check they are separate here in OK. I know the paperwork came separately. The think that I can't figure out is why the determination department (where I send the paperwork) is in IL and not right here in the state I live in.

[LarryJ]

I think I'll check they are separate here in OK. I know the paperwork came separately. The think that I can't figure out is why the determination department (where I send the paperwork) is in IL and not right here in the state I live in.

The Social Security Administration, being a Federal organization, is not bound by state lines, or state rules.

They contract out the "detemination" to different folks. The Social Security Administration uses, usually, a State agency to make the determination as to whether you are sufficiently disabled to be eligible to receive Social Security. Usually the State agency that they use is the same one that the State uses for their workman's comp cases or their disability board hearings.

For an example.......one that I will never get over simply because it illustrates the Federal Government as opposed to the state government so well:

Several years ago (around 20 years ago) I get this letter from the Federal Courthouse in Muskogee, Oklahoma. Seems I'd been chosen for a Grand Jury and they wanted me there in two weeks, for a session of court that is going to last for 4 months (on Grand Jurys, for those who don't know, you don't sit through a trial and then, when the trial is over, you reach a decision, but, instead, the prosecuting attorney presents evidence of a crime and you need to make a determination as to whether it is well enough presented (whether there is enough evidence) to warrant bringing the case to court and charging whomever with whatever......then, as a sitting Grand Jury, you go on to the next case and the next case and the next case, until the prosecuting attorney runs outta cases and evidence.

Anyway, as I said, I was called up to sit on the Grand Jury for four months in Muskogee, OK.

I live in Texas.

And, they don't have a very good sense of humor if you don't show up. Trust me on this, okay?

Good enough example?

Edited September 29, 2009 by LarryJ