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Reluctantly I have been seeking treatment at the VA for my PTSD.  I was reading over the notes of my psychologist and she did a PTSD screening of me and she is misreporting or not reporting things that I stated during our last session. I told her that I was having nightmares about being in the military and that all I could remember was I was feeling scared and angry and during recent events, I felt as if I was reliving my past experiences. What can I do in this situation? 

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This is News to me  because VA use to would not accept a private Dr Diagnose for PTSD,   that was the No. one denial reason .

so if this is all true

I guess I accept crow on this one.

One other thing  is that combat veterans don't need to tell about their stressor's  if they  have proof they were actually in combat  by morning reports MOS  special orders ect,,ect,,and documented combat records.

unless this has changed ?

The VA can & will find out if your an actual combat veteran....

 

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YOU NEED TO CONFRONT THIS THERAPIST ABOUT THINGS NOT MENTION IN YOUR SESSIONS...if something was not said   then next time you see her ask her/him about it   and ask for a  /Amendment/Clarification    that you do not want things in your medical records that was not said to you or to you in person  put into your medical records.

They can't take out was was mention in your records  but they can clarify it. 

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6 hours ago, Buck52 said:

would not accept a private Dr Diagnose for PTSD,

this is crux of this discussion. The "diagnosis" was never the restriction it is the C&P and DBQ that the VA must do. Unlike other conditions (spine, SA, etc) where the VA can just accept your private doctors opinion and tests, a C&P for PTSD has to be held.

They will "accept" anything you submit. How much credence they give it is a different story.

When your private Dr. says "bob has ptsd" and does a DBQ the VA is still going to give you a C&P and fill out their own DBQ. If they differ the rater has to then decide if they are going to ignore your evidence and medical reports. The VA seems to lose a lot of those situations but the raters still try it.

as for 1st year out of service,  and combat veterans, there is still a presumption of service connection.  A Vet with a Purple Heart is not going to have to prove stressor events like a non-combat PTSD vet. That said just because someone was in a combat unit does not mean they have stressor events or PTSD, so some type of nexus has to be documented.

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I think its just a matter of judgment or the decision makers are have a bad day.

Because I am a Vietnam combat veteran and have CIB on my DD 214 Plus other awards and ribbons from my Unit in Vietnam...I had to prove my stressor's in my claim for PTSD , most of us that was awarded the PH gave it away to the family's of the combat veterans that lost their life (enough said about that.)

Anyway I had to send them all my records of evidence  dates and locations of the conflict zone and the names of the operations I was choose to be in from my company commander, some of these records I had and some I didn't   but after they checked the dates locations and my unit commander I was Approved,

They Just wanted to make it hard for me   but I am an old Vietnam Grunt and it maybe different now  about the Gulf Wars Proving your combat duty?

.but my point is I had to prove to them my stressors   which caused me a lot of stress and anxiety doing so.

SO BACK TO THERAPY.

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On second thought I stand by what I mention about  it has to be from a VA DR to diagnose a veteran for PTSD for compensation purposes .

As matter fact there's just to many VA Dr that work for the VA that reluctantly fill out a DBQ Form or refused to fill one out.(Its not their job) is the lame excuse they use   as for as my experience anyway.

I agree with you about who can fill one out because the Dr can fill it out but its their decision rather or not they fill it out.

most VA Dr's Will not fill out a DBQ...Some will but the odds that they do is stacked against the Veteran.

if you had a VA Dr fill out your PTSD  DBQ then consider your self very lucky  because most Veterans can't get their VA M.H. Doc or even a MD/or  VA M.H. psychiatrist  to fill one out.  Most say its not their job,  go see the DAV or Hire a VSO to help you.

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16 minutes ago, Buck52 said:

diagnose a veteran

again our disagreement is over the term diagnose. The C&P is not a diagnosis, it is a review of the facts and legal determination if the PTSD is related to service. NO MORE.

Actually being diagnosed with PTSD can happen anywhere by any qualified doctor including those that don't work for the VA.

The reality is when a veteran puts in a claim for PTSD, the VA does NOT look at it to see if a VA DOCTOR is the one who DIAGNOSED the PTSD.

They look at the file to see if the elements to support the claim are enough to proceed with the claim and put the Vet in for a C&P to review the records and find out if they support Service Connection. This is not a medical diagnosis.

Vets are not FORCED to go to VA Mental Health and get treatment.

Vets frequently do use VA Mental Health services but are not FORCED to just to process the claim.

If you have a link to a law or regulation that explicitly states a veteran MUST have the VAMC Mental Health Program DIAGNOSE PTSD before a claim for Service Connected Compensation can be awarded please provide it.

I will happily change my statement if you provide that link.

 

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Geekysquid

You need to read this entire link  it has a list of conditions veterans claim for Compensation purposes   read on down to the DBQ's THAT Are not allowed to be filled out by Private Dr's

It comes from the VA Web site

https://www.benefits.va.gov/compensation/dbq_FAQs.asp

I can't find the Correct CFR's just yet.

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4 minutes ago, Buck52 said:

read on down to the DBQ's THAT Are not allowed to be filled out by Private Dr's

the discussion is not about DBQ's it is about DIAGNOSE.

DBQs don't diagnose anything. They are just a finding that the relevant facts support a finding of Service Connection.

 

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you maybe correct on that above  that the DBQ do not diagnose a PTSD Condition.

However the DBQ does ask if the Veteran has been given a PTSD Diagnose.

I am not sure  my PTSD  C&P Examiner ask this question during my C&P?

  I know I was diagnose by the  from a VA MH Dr's actually 3  one was a V.A. MD with a PHD  And the other was a VA MD psychiatrist  and a L.C.S.W.  SW-4 Working under the license care of the VA MD PSYCHIATRIST 

i JUST HAPPEN TO GET THESE OFF   

 notes off myhealthvet

but this has been a few years ago  so things might have changed...but back then a Veteran had to have a Diagnose for PTSD come From a  Qualified VA Doctor Only.  if it was a private Doc  the Veteran was automatically Denied his claim.

 

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For  purposes of diagnose PTSD from VA only

I copied this off VA Web site

 

Who is licensed to provide psychotherapy for PTSD?

The mental health professionals below provide psychotherapy for PTSD, and in most states, are not licensed to prescribe medications.

Psychologists

Licensed clinical psychologists focus on mental health assessment and treatment. They have a doctoral degree (e.g., PhD, PsyD, EdD) from 4 or more years of graduate training in clinical or counseling psychology. To be licensed to practice, psychologists must have another 1 to 2 years of supervised clinical experience. Psychologists have the title of "doctor" because of their doctoral degree, but in most states they cannot prescribe medicine.

Clinical Social Workers

The purpose of social work is to enhance human well-being by helping people meet basic human needs. Licensed social workers also focus on diagnosis and treatment, and specialize in areas such as mental health, aging, of family and children. Most licensed social workers have a master's degree from 2 years of graduate training (e.g., MSW) or a doctoral degree in social work (e.g., DSW or PhD).

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14 minutes ago, Buck52 said:

I copied this off VA Web site

is there part of that website that says "only a VA DR or MSW can DIAGNOSE PTSD for VA to give a C&P exam? I suspect that will be a no but look forward to reading the site if you answer yes.

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