goose_716 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Has anyone tried to connect sleep apnea to being caused by working a rotating schedule. I worked 2 days 2 swings 2 mid for about 13 years out of my 20. Rest of my career was rotating schedule but it was not as xtreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jfrei Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) On 1/8/2020 at 10:02 AM, brokensoldier244th said: Why should you have to pay more for an opinion? It's their job. Your paying for them to review all of your medical evidence and state their opinion and they have their license. Your a random person in need of evidence it not their job to take hours to go over your records and give an educated doctors opinion... 10k is way to much I agree Edited January 9, 2020 by jfrei 63Charlie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Moderator brokensoldier244th Posted January 9, 2020 Moderator Share Posted January 9, 2020 I disagree. If you don't have a relationship with them as a patient they shouldn't be writing things up for you. Those are the doctors that Better Call Saul hires for insurance hit jobs. If you have a relationship with your doctor, part of their job is rendering diagnosis and knowing your history. Spending a few hours with your records and listening to you complain about your issues in a letter or over the phone is not a patient doctor relationship. I think doctors should get paid, but they shouldn't hire themselves out on the side for people they have never treated. They are basically lying- they have never treated you, or even met you (royal 'you'). They are just reading your notes and writing up something- and since you are paying them a disgusting amount of money why wouldn't they write something favorable? Even if you lose your claim they still have the money. Its a racket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HadIt.com Elder Buck52 Posted January 9, 2020 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted January 9, 2020 Any time you pay A Dr for his/ her service they become the Dr'Patient As for a a Relationship this is a relationship your telling the Dr what you need from him, its a short relationship but never the less its a relationship After you let this privateDr know want from him and he understands what your needing and reads some of your military records not all of them but the one that pertains to your claim and you guys make a deal or how much the Dr is going to charge you to write his / her professional medical opinion If he examines you thenthis is a IME I should say this is why I use the private Dr (specialist) because the VA Dr's will not do it or most of them won't you get a VA Dr that will help then sure use him/her but this whole thing is about getting a Dr to create a nexus FOR US TO WIN OUR CLAIMS. its an IMO/IME I really don't know why you don't Agree with this method.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dustoff1970 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 To begin with these private paid for Doctor IMOs are perfectly legal and acceptable by the Board of Veterans Appeals and Federal Courts including CAVC and Fed Appeals Circuit in D.C. as credible medical evidence for many decades. From my own 35 years personal experience filing claims and appeals with VA/BVA many VA raters, adjudicators, DROs and C&P examiners are outright dishonest in evaluating our disability claims in that they outright lie on their written reports and decisions and I have given many examples of this in my other many post on this and other forums so therefore there is nothing unethical about vets paying for support and assistance from outside doctors and lawyers. What is good for the goose blah blah blah. I notice there are some vets that post this high moorlastic crap on this and another forum over and over and over again and also ask the same questions and make same statements on both fourm over over and over again. feeling lonely I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HadIt.com Elder GBArmy Posted January 9, 2020 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted January 9, 2020 The system is broken. The VA hires medical people to do inadequate exams, that are incomplete, way too short of time for the task involved, without complete medical files to review for the C&P, sometimes by people not qualified to make appropriate evaluations because of lack of expertise, and somehow, if we get an outside medical opinion to support the veteran's claim, that is wrong??? It's the VA's systems; you have to play by their rules. It is allowed. If you need extra help, it's allowed and you don't do it, you're stepping up to the plate with a strike already called before you get into the batter's box. Dustoff1970 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HadIt.com Elder Buck52 Posted January 10, 2020 HadIt.com Elder Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) Well its ok if some members want to disagree with getting outside Dr to help with our claims or to get their medical opinion, After all we pay them good money for their professional opinion and None of us are asking them to lie....a good example I had a VA Dr that flat out lied his teeth off (why) we don't know why? other than they love to take a veterans benefits away because of their POWER. Well the VA has to take his word and usually the Veteran ends up with a denial and We have to Appeal the whole enchilada goes out the window,,,,and basically the Veteran has to start over with the exception of his EED, if he/she continues his appeal on a timeline. Well we go see a Private Doc and talk to him and let him know what we need let this other Dr read what this VA Dr IS SAYING ABOUT YOUR MEDICAL HISTORY AND YOUR HEALTH ect,,,ect,,, ..ok he reads your records or the petient record about what your claiming and after he examines you and reads your pertaint records about what it is your claiming then this Dr (prefer a specialist) Board Certified ,let this specialist give his medical opinion on you and he uses the VA Guidelines and Rules and goes by the CFR's the whole bottle of wax...this takes time so it's not like these Dr or not earning their $$ and it is us Veterans that are going to pay these Dr for their medical opinion and that helps us out rather or not for a condition or whatever the case maybe he can go up agianst this VA Dr and with a through explanation and with his medical expertise the VA usually will go with the specialist in most cases. These private Dr's bassaicly do what the VA Dr's should have done in the first place. Now some times we need to let these Dr's know some about our claims & ourself and how the VA likes things worded like as least likely as not ''is likely as not'' or ''related to '' ect,,,ect,, and how the VA treats us , and you can tell him that as he reads some of your records that you take for him to read, these Dr are just as smart or smarter as the VA Dr's and if a Veteran needs a second opinion because of a VA Dr That don't put out enough information favorable to the Veteran then this is why we need these Dr's for their expertise and opinion...it really makes these VA Dr's seem like Idiots. Let these Dr's know how the VA lIkes things worded ie likely as not is at least likely as not or is 50%greater its basically saying it is more likely than saying direct yes it is related to or yes it is ect,,,,ect,,,, This is good for the private Dr if they have ANY Legal concerns if they use the VA Lingo. Edited January 10, 2020 by Buck52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Has anyone tried to connect sleep apnea to being caused by working a rotating schedule. I worked 2 days 2 swings 2 mid for about 13 years out of my 20. Rest of my career was rotating schedule but it was not as xtreme.
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If you have had a sleep apnea study done at a private or VA sleep clinic they might be able to answer your question on shift work causing and or aggravating SA (especially a private sleep clinic or sl
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I think 500 for a vocation assessment and or doctors opinion isn’t the far off. I paid 500 for one after one person tried to charge me 10k because it was sTBI and knew I had years of retro l obviously
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After having read hundreds of BVA and CAVC veterans court decisions over past thirty years and up to present day I can tell other vets that many paid for private doctor IMOs made the difference in the
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