Interesting points. 71M10, I haven't found an attorney yet that will even look at my claims until I have been denied on the NOD. I find that interesting and somewhat oh I don't know kind of screwed up. But I get it. They have to make some money off a case if they decide to take it. I just don't think it is right. Personally I have been reading a lot. The regs and on these forums, it is a lot of information, and some cases, like mine, is not so cut and dry, especially with overlapping issues, and soooo many regulations and obstacles that the VA puts to burden a veteran making a just claim. I'm at the point of submitting an NOD on my first claim, I am just waiting to see if they follow the correct criteria before I contest it. I am concerned about my gulf war claim, the language on undiagnosed illness, and the presumptive requirements, I can see how it can be easily denied on the VA's side of it. I am waiting to see what decisions they make on it. They should follow the regs and laws, however, I know better, I have already started working on my NOD for that claim, just in case. Paranoid and preemptive, eh maybe, but as I commented once before on another post, it is War, one battle at a time, and you have to be prepared.