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Joey Ross

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How long can the VA hold up a Claim, if they are requesting records. Is there a limit on the number of times they can make the same request, before they are forced to go with the info they have?

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All due respect, Shrek, but that is not true. When requesting military personnel records and strs we legally have to wait for a negative response- that isn’t silence, that means we have to wait to be told by NPRC that No, they can’t find “it”. and continually request until they do.

 Personal medical records are two attempts to the provider, same with requests for employment info from employers for IU. VA will also not pay providers for printing or burning cds if your provider charges then we request from them 1 more time then send you a final attempt letter and it’s on you to get them. 
 

WITH NPRC being being on extremely limited staffing right now it’s taking forever- we have no control over that. If we need to verify a stressor, areas of ops, in service stressor incidents etc and your discharge is before a certain year then that is where your records are. That’s not us, that’s DOD. Without verification of stressor, events, area of service we can’t legally satisfy AO, exposure, or mst claims. Some more recent records, last 15 -20 years have mostly been scanned but older than that it’s still ongoing. Even electronic records have to be sent by NPRC. We can’t just log in. Someone needs to be on that end to find them and send them. 
 

if you request them from Nprc you are going to wait as long as we are, or longer even. 

The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound.Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book,and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching. --17 different possible sources, all lacking verifiable attribution.

B.S. Doane College, Mgt Info Systems/Systems Analysis 2008

M.S.Ed. Purdue University, Instructional Development and Technology, Feb. 2021

M.S. Purdue University Information Technology/InfoSec, Dec 2022

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Radiculopathy

Sleep Apnea

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B.S. Info Systems Mgt/Systems Analysis-Doane College 2008
M.S. Instructional Technology and Design- Purdue University 2021

 

(I AM NOT A RATER- I work the claims BEFORE they are rated, annotating medical evidence in your records, VA and Legal documents,  and DA/DD forms- basically a paralegal/vso/etc except that I also evaluate your records based on Caluza and try to justify and schedule the exams that you go to based on whether or not your records have enough in them to warrant those)

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Just to add to the above- I, and many others in other RO's have applied for a special project that will allow us access to the electronic side of NPRC to look for scanned records. They reached out for help- so they are aware of the issue.  I know that their people do it, but I have no idea how many employees they have, so they are reaching out for help. I don't have a huge amount of experience mining military records and researching other than what I see daily now, but I AM a grad student and have been reading and researching scientific papers and journals for the last year, so at least my brain is in the right place.

No word yet on when the project starts or if Im on it, but the VA side IS AWARE of the problem of claims being held up due to no one being able to research stressors and is in the process of addressing the problem. The project is like 6 months long once it kicks off, and it should within this month, I think. 

 

 

The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound.Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book,and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching. --17 different possible sources, all lacking verifiable attribution.

B.S. Doane College, Mgt Info Systems/Systems Analysis 2008

M.S.Ed. Purdue University, Instructional Development and Technology, Feb. 2021

M.S. Purdue University Information Technology/InfoSec, Dec 2022

100% P/T

MDD

Spine

Radiculopathy

Sleep Apnea

Some other stuff

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B.S. Info Systems Mgt/Systems Analysis-Doane College 2008
M.S. Instructional Technology and Design- Purdue University 2021

 

(I AM NOT A RATER- I work the claims BEFORE they are rated, annotating medical evidence in your records, VA and Legal documents,  and DA/DD forms- basically a paralegal/vso/etc except that I also evaluate your records based on Caluza and try to justify and schedule the exams that you go to based on whether or not your records have enough in them to warrant those)

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Broken, I think that's great! You are helping in the cause of some very distressed veterans, so your heart is in the right place. And I think you're going to learn some new stuff that's going to help you going forward. Good for you; hope you get the assignment.

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The rational part of me says F yeah! Drive on! But it IS an assignment with a whole new set of training, takes me out of claims directly, and has no extra bump in pay. *shrug* by the time it expires Ill be up for GS9 anyway, so, there is that. Ill still have to research and stay up to date on claim stuff/M21 changes and whatnot. It will be kinda like 1.5 jobs. 

Meh- whats new, right? I was a quartermaster with IT skills. I spent more time helping cadre with computer problems that company supply. 

The Earth is degenerating these days. Bribery and corruption abound.Children no longer mind their parents, every man wants to write a book,and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching. --17 different possible sources, all lacking verifiable attribution.

B.S. Doane College, Mgt Info Systems/Systems Analysis 2008

M.S.Ed. Purdue University, Instructional Development and Technology, Feb. 2021

M.S. Purdue University Information Technology/InfoSec, Dec 2022

100% P/T

MDD

Spine

Radiculopathy

Sleep Apnea

Some other stuff

-------------------------------------------
B.S. Info Systems Mgt/Systems Analysis-Doane College 2008
M.S. Instructional Technology and Design- Purdue University 2021

 

(I AM NOT A RATER- I work the claims BEFORE they are rated, annotating medical evidence in your records, VA and Legal documents,  and DA/DD forms- basically a paralegal/vso/etc except that I also evaluate your records based on Caluza and try to justify and schedule the exams that you go to based on whether or not your records have enough in them to warrant those)

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13 hours ago, brokensoldier244th said:

All due respect, Shrek, but that is not true. When requesting military personnel records and strs we legally have to wait for a negative response- that isn’t silence, that means we have to wait to be told by NPRC that No, they can’t find “it”. and continually request until they do.

 Personal medical records are two attempts to the provider, same with requests for employment info from employers for IU. VA will also not pay providers for printing or burning cds if your provider charges then we request from them 1 more time then send you a final attempt letter and it’s on you to get them. 
 

WITH NPRC being being on extremely limited staffing right now it’s taking forever- we have no control over that. If we need to verify a stressor, areas of ops, in service stressor incidents etc and your discharge is before a certain year then that is where your records are. That’s not us, that’s DOD. Without verification of stressor, events, area of service we can’t legally satisfy AO, exposure, or mst claims. Some more recent records, last 15 -20 years have mostly been scanned but older than that it’s still ongoing. Even electronic records have to be sent by NPRC. We can’t just log in. Someone needs to be on that end to find them and send them. 
 

if you request them from Nprc you are going to wait as long as we are, or longer even. 

So if NPRC can't find the records, the claim is reviewed with the records the VA has?

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